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! [[Image:EPDB-length1.jpg|Tripod mount length]]
 
! [[Image:EPDB-length1.jpg|Tripod mount length]]
 
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! Use the correct name of your camera. For digital camera's, please use the name as mentioned at [http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/specs.asp dpreview].  
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! Use the correct name of your camera. For digital camera's, please use the name as mentioned at [http://www.dpreview.com/reviews?sort=brand dpreview].  
 
! Looking at the bottom of the camera, the distance between the the middle of the tripod mount to the lens axis (0 if the tripod mount is over the centre of the lens)  
 
! Looking at the bottom of the camera, the distance between the the middle of the tripod mount to the lens axis (0 if the tripod mount is over the centre of the lens)  
 
! Facing the camera, the distance from the base of the camera to the center of the lens  
 
! Facing the camera, the distance from the base of the camera to the center of the lens  
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|Canon EOS 60D || 0 mm || 40.5 mm || 38.5 mm
 
|Canon EOS 60D || 0 mm || 40.5 mm || 38.5 mm
 
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|Canon EOS 400D || 0 mm || 37 mm || 39 mm
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|Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi || 0 mm || 37 mm || 39 mm
 
|-Canon EOS 400D with BG-E3 || 0 mm || 81 mm || 33 mm
 
|-Canon EOS 400D with BG-E3 || 0 mm || 81 mm || 33 mm
 
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|Nikon FT1 adapter || 0 mm || 43 mm || 13 mm
 
|Nikon FT1 adapter || 0 mm || 43 mm || 13 mm
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|Nikon PN11 tube || 0 mm || 40 mm || 17 mm
 
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|Pentax *ist DS || 0 mm || 36 mm || 43 mm
 
|Pentax *ist DS || 0 mm || 36 mm || 43 mm
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|Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 || 21.5 mm || 27.7 mm || 28.9 mm
 
|Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 || 21.5 mm || 27.7 mm || 28.9 mm
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|Sony Alpha 7R || 0 mm || 38 mm || 24 mm
 
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|Sony Alpha A100 || 0 mm || 37 mm || 35 mm
 
|Sony Alpha A100 || 0 mm || 37 mm || 35 mm
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== Entrance Pupil Measurements ==
 
== Entrance Pupil Measurements ==
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*To calculate the Entrance pupil distance add the Tripod Mount Length (L1) from the camera and the Entrance Pupil Length (L2) from the lens. So for example for a Canon 300d and a 10-22mm at 10mm, the total Entrance pupil distance from the tripod mount is 40mm + 66mm = 106mm
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For lenses of the same manufacturer as the camera, just take the first table, simple.
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Several manufacturers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc) offer the same lens for a variety of camera mounts. Since different camera manufacturers have different lens mount dimensions, these "third party" lenses are split in a separate table (below).
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*For these '''''Focal Length''''' values the actual focus is set to infinity (<math>\infty</math>) unless otherwise specified (Micro/macro lenses)
  
 
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! '''Entrance Pupil Length (L2)'''
 
! '''Entrance Pupil Length (L2)'''
 
|-valign="top"
 
|-valign="top"
!<div style="height:150px;">&nbsp;</div><hr>Enter the exact lens name, or if you are using a camera with a fixed lens the name of your camera as mentioned at [http://www.dpreview.com/products/cameras DPreview].||<div style="height:150px;">&nbsp;</div><hr>&nbsp;||[[Image:EPDB-length2.jpg|Entrance Pupil Length]]<hr>Facing the side of the lens, the distance from the base of the lens to the Entrance Pupil. A negative value means the entrance pupil is outside the lens, in the camera body.Such is the case with many telephoto lenses. The lens base is the  
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!<div style="height:150px;">&nbsp;</div>Original equipment<br>(Lenses from same manufacturer as camera)<hr>Enter the exact lens name, or if you are using a camera with a fixed lens the name of your camera as mentioned at [http://www.dpreview.com/products/cameras DPreview].||<div style="height:150px;">&nbsp;</div><hr>&nbsp;||[[Image:EPDB-length2.jpg|Entrance Pupil Length]]<hr>Facing the side of the lens, the distance from the base of the lens to the Entrance Pupil. A negative value means the entrance pupil is outside the lens, in the camera body.Such is the case with many telephoto lenses. The lens base is the  
 
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| Canon EF 8-15mm || 8-15mm || 64mm
 
| Canon EF 8-15mm || 8-15mm || 64mm
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| Konica Minolta 24 f/2.8 || 24mm || 21mm
 
| Konica Minolta 24 f/2.8 || 24mm || 21mm
 
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|-
| Samyang 8mm f3.5 CS Fish-eye (~60°)|| 8mm || 50mm
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| Nikkor AF DX 10.5mm f2.8G ED Fisheye || 10.5mm || ~46mm recommended. Varies: 41.2 (0˚) to 57mm (100˚)[[#References |<sup>[PT]</sup>]]
 
|-
 
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| Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC|| 14mm || 55mm
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| Nikkor AF DX 10.5mm  f2.8G ED (Shaved, edge Null) || 10.5mm || ~47.5mm recommended on FX cameras. Varies: see above
 
|-
 
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| Samyang 35mm f1.4 AS UMC|| 35mm || 58mm
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 12-24mm f4G ED || 12mm || 71.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 70-300 (which version?) || 70mm || 83mm
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| Nikkor AF 14mm f2.8D ED || 14mm || 48mm (Varies by angle)
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 70-300 || 85mm || 70mm
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| Nikkor AF 16mm f2.8D Fisheye || 16mm || ~48mm recommended. Varies: 37.9mm(0˚) to 48mm(85˚)
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 70-300 || 100mm || 45mm
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| Nikkor AF-S 17-35mm f2.8D ED || 17mm || 82.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 70-300 || 135mm || -30mm
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| Nikkor AF-S 17-35mm f2.8D ED || 35mm || 78.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 70-300 || 200mm || -30mm
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-55mm II|| 18mm || 70mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF DX 10.5mm f2.8G ED Fisheye || 10.5mm || 45.5mm to 46mm (Recommended) Varies by 16mm: 41.2 (at 0deg) to 57mm (100deg)
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 18mm || 51mm
 
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|-
| Nikkor AF DX 10.5mm  f2.8G ED (Shaved, edge Null) || 10.5mm || 47.5mm (recommended when used on FX camera)
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 24mm || 44mm
 
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|-
| Nikkor AF-S DX 12-24mm f4G ED || 12mm || 71.5mm
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 35mm || 33.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF 14mm f2.8D ED || 14mm || 48mm (Varies by angle)
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 50mm || 24.5mm
 
|-
 
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| Nikkor AF 16mm f2.8D Fisheye || 16mm || 48mm. (~ Suggested) Varies by 11mm: 37.9mm (at 0deg) to 48mm (85deg)
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 70mm || -6.5mm
 
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| Nikkor AF 18mm f2.8D || 18mm || 36mm  
 
| Nikkor AF 18mm f2.8D || 18mm || 36mm  
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| Nikkor PC-E 24mm f3.5D ED tilt shift || 24mm || 85mm (no tilt)  
 
| Nikkor PC-E 24mm f3.5D ED tilt shift || 24mm || 85mm (no tilt)  
 
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|-
| Nikkor AF 28mm f2.8D || 28mm || 22mm
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| Nikkor AF-S 24-120mm f4G ED VR || 24mm || 71mm (<25˚) Varies.
 
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|-
| Nikkor PC 28mm f3.5 shift || 28mm || 37mm (no shift)
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| Nikkor AF-S 24-120mm f4G ED VR || 120mm || 4mm
 
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|-
| Nikkor AF-S 17-35mm f2.8D ED || 17mm || 83mm
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| Nikkor AF 28mm f2.8D || 28mm || 22mm[[#References |<sup>[PT]</sup>]]
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-55mm II|| 18mm || 70mm
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| Nikkor PC 28mm f3.5 shift || 28mm || 37mm (no shift)
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 18mm || 51mm
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| Nikkor AF-S 28-70mm f2.8D ED || 28mm || 97.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 24mm || 44mm
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| Nikkor AF-S 28-70mm f2.8D ED || 70mm || 76mm
|-
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 35mm || 33.5mm
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|-
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 50mm || 24.5mm
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|-
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| Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm || 70mm || -6.5mm
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|-
 
|-
 
| Nikkor AF 35mm f2.0D || 35mm || 19.3mm  
 
| Nikkor AF 35mm f2.0D || 35mm || 19.3mm  
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| Nikkor AF 50mm f1.4D || 50mm || 6mm
 
| Nikkor AF 50mm f1.4D || 50mm || 6mm
 
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|-
| Nikkor AF 50mm f1.8D || 50mm || 19mm
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| Nikkor AF 50mm f1.8D || 50mm || 5mm (f4..f22), 19mm (f1.8..f2.8 - internal vignetting forward of aperture wide open)
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.8G || 50mm || 7mm ~
 
| Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.8G || 50mm || 7mm ~
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8D Micro || 60mm || 15mm (infinity focus)
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| Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8D Micro || 60mm || 15mm (infinity)
 
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|-
 
| Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8D Micro || 60mm || 49mm (1:1)
 
| Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8D Micro || 60mm || 49mm (1:1)
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| Nikkor AF 85mm f1.8D || 85mm || 10mm
 
| Nikkor AF 85mm f1.8D || 85mm || 10mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor PC 85mm f2.8D micro tilt shift || 85mm || 39mm (infinity focus, no tilt)
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| Nikkor PC 85mm f2.8D micro tilt shift || 85mm || 39mm (infinity, no tilt)
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor PC 85mm f2.8D micro tilt shift || 85mm || 74mm (1:1)
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| Nikkor PC 85mm f2.8D micro tilt shift || 85mm || 74mm (1:2)
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8D Micro || 105mm || 32mm (infinity focus)
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| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8D Micro || 105mm || 32mm (infinity)
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8D Micro || 105mm || 92mm (1:1)
 
| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8D Micro || 105mm || 92mm (1:1)
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8G VR Micro || 105mm || 30mm (~, at infinity focus)
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| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8G VR Micro || 105mm || 30mm (~, at infinity)
 
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|-
 
| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8G VR Micro || 105mm || -50mm (~, at 1:1)
 
| Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8G VR Micro || 105mm || -50mm (~, at 1:1)
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| Nikkor AF 180mm f2.8D ED || 180mm || -45mm
 
| Nikkor AF 180mm f2.8D ED || 180mm || -45mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro || 200mm || 96mm (infinity focus)
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| Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro || 200mm || 96mm (infinity)
 
|-
 
|-
| Nikkor AF 300mm f4 ED || 300mm || -187mm, -209mm with TC14B 
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| Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro || 200mm || -5mm (1:2)
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 10mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye (60° stops) || 10mm || 50mm
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| Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro || 200mm || -450mm (1:1)
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 8mm F4.0 EX || 8mm || 47.5mm / 49mm / 51mm - which one is it?
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| Nikkor AF 300mm f4 ED || 300mm || -187mm, -209mm with TC14B 
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 8mm F3.5 EX || 8mm || 49.5mm
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| Nikkor MF 500mm f8 Reflex || 500mm || -335mm 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Nikon C8800 at Wide inf. (is this at the widest setting ?) || 8.9mm ?? || 75mm center of tripod mtg screw to Ent Pupil
 
| Nikon C8800 at Wide inf. (is this at the widest setting ?) || 8.9mm ?? || 75mm center of tripod mtg screw to Ent Pupil
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 || 5.1mm || 28.5mm (but what constitutes the lens base?)
 
| Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 || 5.1mm || 28.5mm (but what constitutes the lens base?)
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| Peleng-N 8mm F3.5 || 8mm || 44mm
 
 
|-
 
|-
 
| Opteka 0.22X UHD II FishEye || 8mm (0.22X) || 35.75mm
 
| Opteka 0.22X UHD II FishEye || 8mm (0.22X) || 35.75mm
 
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|-
| Tamron 90mm F2.8 Di2 Macro || 90mm || 34mm
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| Sony 18-55mm E-mount || 18mm || 15.5mm
 
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|-
| Sigma 35mm F1.4 A HSM || 35mm || 62mm
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| Sony 18-55mm E-mount || 24mm || 12.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM || 8mm || 73mm
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| Sony 18-55mm E-mount || 35mm || -23.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM || 12mm || 67mm
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| Sony FE 2.8/35mm E-mount || 35mm || 30 mm (approx - accurate measurement coming soon)
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM || 16mm || 66.5mm
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| Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 20mm f/4  || 20mm || 17.5mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC || 10mm || 62mm
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| Raynox DCR-CF185PRO || Conversion lens || 80mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC || 14mm || 64mm
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| Canon PowerShot A630 || 35mm (wide open) || 31mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC || 20mm || 68mm
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| Canon PowerShot A710 IS || 35mm (wide open) || 32mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC macro || 17mm || 58mm
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| Canon G9 || 7.4mm (wide) || 33.7mm from tripod screw
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC || 30mm || 26.5mm
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| Canon G9 || 44.4mm (tight) || -10mm from tripod screw
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM || 50mm || 60mm
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| Pentax smc DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fisheye zoom || 10mm || 57.8mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM || 70mm || 30mm
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! <Manufacturer / Lens> || <Focal Length> || <Entrance Pupil Length>
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Several manufacturers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc) offer the same lens for a variety of camera mounts. This is convenient for example, if the value listed for your lens is for the Canon version and you have a Nikon, you just have to add 2.5mm (46.5mm - 44mm).
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Unfortunately, many lenses in this table didn't specify the camera type. Please edit this table if you know the version of the lens actually measured.
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Luckily the difference between Nikon and Canon is just 2.5mm, so even if the version of the lens isn't known, the value listed should at least be reasonably close.
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! '''Lens'''
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! '''Focal Length'''
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! '''Entrance Pupil<br>to Film Plane'''
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! style="background:#e0e0e0;" colspan="3" | '''Entrance Pupil<br>to Lens mount (L2)'''
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! Third-party lenses, <br> Lens manufacturer different than camera <br> or same lens available to fit several mounts ||  || [[Image:EPDB-lengthFP.jpg|Entrance Pupil Length]]<hr>Independent of lens mount || colspan="3" | [[Image:EPDB-length2.jpg|Entrance Pupil Length]]<hr>Depends on type of camera
 
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| Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM || 100mm || -10mm
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! Enter the exact lens name || f || FP || Unspecified mount || Nikon F mount <br> (FP-46.5mm) || Canon EF Mount <br> (FP-44.0mm)
 
|-
 
|-
| Sony 18-55mm E-mount || 18mm || 15.5mm
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| Peleng-N 8mm F3.5 || 8mm || || 44mm || (N for Nikon?) ||  
 
|-
 
|-
| Sony 18-55mm E-mount || 24mm || 12.5mm
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| Samyang 8mm f3.5 CS Fish-eye (~60°)|| 8mm ||  || 50mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Sony 18-55mm E-mount || 35mm || -23.5mm
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| Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC|| 14mm || || 55mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6  || 11mm || 58.5mm
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| Samyang 35mm f1.4 AS UMC|| 35mm || || 58mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6  || 14mm || 59.5mm
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| Sigma 14mm f3.5 || 14mm || 82.8mm to 87.8mm[[#References | <sup>[JW]</sup>]]  ||  ||  ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 || 18mm || 62.5mm
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| Sigma 70-300 || 70mm || || 83mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP || 17mm || 56.5mm
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| Sigma 70-300 || 85mm || || 70mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP || 24mm || 48mm
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| Sigma 70-300 || 100mm || || 45mm|| ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP || 35mm || 40.5mm
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| Sigma 70-300 || 135mm || || -30mm|| ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP || 50mm || 31.5mm
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| Sigma 70-300 || 200mm || || -30mm|| ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 XR DI || 28-75mm || 58.8mm
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| Sigma 10mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye (60° stops) || 10mm ||  ||  50mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tokina 10-17mm f3.5 DX || 10mm || 58.2mm (~ consider also the gap between L1 and L2 for some cameras)
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| Sigma 8mm f4.0 fisheye || 8mm || 88.8mm(10˚) to 103.5mm(90˚)[[#References |<sup>[JW]</sup>]] ||  || ~48mm recommended ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX || 11mm || 65.6mm
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| Sigma 8mm F3.5 EX || 8mm || || 49.5mm  || 52mm[[#References |<sup>[GR]</sup>]] ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX || 16mm || 67.6mm
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| Sigma 35mm F1.4 A HSM || 35mm || ||  || || 62mm
 
|-
 
|-
| Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX || 12mm || 60mm
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| Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM || 8mm ||  || 73mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX || 18mm || 64mm ~
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| Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM || 12mm ||  || 67mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX || 24mm || 59mm
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| Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM || 16mm ||  || 66.5mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 20mm f/4 || 20mm || 17.5mm
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| Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC || 10mm || || 62mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Raynox DCR-CF185PRO || Conversion lens || 80mm
+
| Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC || 14mm ||  || 64mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Canon PowerShot A630 || 35mm (wide open) || 31mm
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| Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC || 20mm ||  || 68mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Canon PowerShot A710 IS || 35mm (wide open) || 32mm
+
| Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC macro || 17mm ||  || 58mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Canon G9 || 7.4mm (wide) || 33.7mm from tripod screw
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| Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC || 30mm || || 26.5mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Canon G9 || 44.4mm (tight) || -10mm from tripod screw
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| Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM || 50mm ||  || 60mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Zenitar 2,8/16 || 16mm || 36mm
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| Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM || 70mm ||  || 30mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
| Pentax smc DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fisheye zoom || 10mm || 57.8mm
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| Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM || 100mm ||  || -10mm || ||
 
|-
 
|-
! <Manufacturer / Lens> || <Focal Length> || <Entrance Pupil Length>
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| Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6  || 11mm ||  || 58.5mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6  || 14mm ||  || 59.5mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6  || 18mm ||  || 62.5mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP  || 17mm ||  || 56.5mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP  || 24mm ||  || 48mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP  || 35mm ||  || 40.5mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP  || 50mm ||  || 31.5mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 XR DI  || 28-75mm ||  || 58.8mm || ||
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|-
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| Tamron 90mm F2.8 Di2 Macro || 90mm ||  || 34mm || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 10-17mm f3.5 DX || 10mm ||  || 58.2mm || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX || 11mm ||  || 65.6mm || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX || 16mm ||  || 67.6mm || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX || 12mm ||  ||  || 63mm[[#References |<sup>[GR]</sup>]]  ||
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|-
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| Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX || 18mm ||  || 64mm ~ || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX || 24mm ||  || 59mm || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 28-70mm f2.8 ATX || 28mm || 115mm[[#References |<sup>[JW]</sup>]] ||  || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 28-70mm f2.8 ATX || 70mm || 98.3mm[[#References |<sup>[JW]</sup>]] ||  || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 28-80mm f2.8 ATX-PRO || 28mm || 128mm[[#References |<sup>[JW]</sup>]] ||  || ||
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|-
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| Tokina 28-80mm f2.8 ATX-PRO || 80mm || 106mm[[#References |<sup>[JW]</sup>]] ||  || ||
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|-
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| Zenitar 2,8/16 || 16mm || || 36mm || ||
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|-! <Manufacturer / Lens> || <Focal Length> || <Film Plane> || colspan="3" | <mount dimension>
 
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*To calculate the Entrance pupil distance add the Tripod Mount Length (L1) from the camera and the Entrance Pupil Length (L2) from the lens. So for example for a Canon 300d and a 10-22mm at 10mm, the total Entrance pupil distance from the tripod mount is 40mm + 66mm = 106mm
 
 
*For these '''''Focal Length''''' values the actual focus is set to infinity (<math>\infty</math>)
 
  
 
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** Nikon 10.5mm f2.8 G ED,
 
** Nikon 10.5mm f2.8 G ED,
 
** Samyang 8mm f3.5 FISH-EYE CD.
 
** Samyang 8mm f3.5 FISH-EYE CD.
* Joseph Wisniewski's 2003 bumper list of lens data : http://www.swissarmyfork.com/lens_table_1.htm and tripod pin offset data : http://www.swissarmyfork.com/mount_table_1.htm
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* Pierre Toscani's ray-tracing calculations and entrance pupil animations: http://www.pierretoscani.com/echo_fisheyes_english.html of the
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== References ==
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Data is taken from a variety of sources and personally verified by the editors wherever possible. Credit where credit is due!
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* <sup>[JW]</sup> Joseph Wisniewski's 2003 bumper list of highly precise lens data : http://www.swissarmyfork.com/lens_table_1.htm and tripod pin offset data : http://www.swissarmyfork.com/mount_table_1.htm
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* <sup>[PT]</sup>Pierre Toscani's ray-tracing calculations and entrance pupil animations: http://www.pierretoscani.com/echo_fisheyes_english.html of the
 
** Nikon 10.5mm f2.8 G ED
 
** Nikon 10.5mm f2.8 G ED
** Nikon 16mm f2.8 D
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** Nikon 28mm f2.8 D
 
** Nikon 28mm f2.8 D
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* <sup>[GR]</sup>Greg Rubottom's Panosaurus page : http://gregwired.com/Panosaurus/OCD.htm
  
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Revision as of 16:46, 17 December 2013

Wouldn't it be great if everyone entered their values for their NPP / Nodal Point / Entrance Pupil for lens and camera combinations. Some searching on the web will find a lot of people saying they want to start to create a database of some kind, but have not seen anything substantial so far (correct me if I am wrong).

Please enter your own values if they are not listed.

Thanks, --Richard Korff 11:12, 13 May 2005 (EDT)


To cater for all the different camera bodies and lenses, the tables have been split into 3 parts:

  • The first table shows the position of the tripod mount in relation to the lens axis. This is easy to measure and is dependent only on the camera body.
  • The second table shows the actual entrance pupil distance which is only dependent on the lens itself. Note that the NPP for fisheye lenses is not constant over the image circle's FoV, so you will sometimes find different NPP values depending on the angle where your images overlap.
  • The third table shows the number if pics neccessay for a full 360° coverage and the rotation angle between shots.

Use as much as possible actual measurements rather than the reading on your panorama head, unless your are sure these are the same.

To enter a line for your combination, edit the page by clicking edit at the top of the screen (you may need to create an account or sign-in first), and edit the table below.


Tripod Mount Measurements

Camera Tripod mount off-center (C) Tripod mount height (H) Tripod mount length (L1)
Tripod mount off-center Tripod mount height Tripod mount length
Use the correct name of your camera. For digital camera's, please use the name as mentioned at dpreview. Looking at the bottom of the camera, the distance between the the middle of the tripod mount to the lens axis (0 if the tripod mount is over the centre of the lens) Facing the camera, the distance from the base of the camera to the center of the lens Looking at the bottom of the camera, the distance between the middle of the tripod mount to the base of the lens base, or base for adaptor tube. For fixed lens camera's which do not allow use of adaptors this column is not applicable.
Canon EOS 5D 0 mm 42 mm 37,5 mm
Canon EOS 5D MKII 0 mm 43.5 mm, 90 mm w/grip 38.5 mm
Canon EOS 5D MKIII 0 mm 43.5 mm 40 mm
Canon EOS 7D 0 mm 42 mm 37.5 mm
Canon EOS 10D 0 mm 42 mm 31.5 mm
Canon EOS 20D 0 mm 40 mm 36.5 mm
Canon EOS 40D 0 mm 42 mm 38.5 mm
Canon EOS 60D 0 mm 40.5 mm 38.5 mm
Canon EOS 400D / Digital Rebel XTi 0 mm 37 mm 39 mm
Canon EOS 300D / Digital Rebel (EOS Digital Rebel) 0 mm 40 mm 40 mm
Canon EOS 300D / Digital Rebel 0 mm 40 mm 38.5 mm
Canon EOS 350D / Digital Rebel XT 0 mm 37.5 mm 38.5 mm
Canon EOS 450D / Digital Rebel XSi 0 mm 35 mm 39 mm
Canon EOS 500D / Digital Rebel X1i 0 mm 38.5 mm 39 mm
Canon EOS 550D / Digital Rebel T2i 0 mm 39 mm 39 mm
Canon EOS 600D / Digital Rebel T3i 0 mm 40 mm 39 mm
Canon EOS 650D / Digital Rebel T4i 0 mm 41 mm 39 mm
Canon EOS 1000D / Digital Rebel XS 0 mm 37 mm 39 mm
Canon G9 12 mm 29 mm N/A
Canon PowerShot A630 15 mm 28 mm N/A
Canon PowerShot A710 IS 21 mm 26.5 mm N/A
Canon PowerShot S80 18 mm 25 mm N/A
Fujifilm FinePix S7000 0 mm 32.8 mm 69mm + 37mm(Adapt.Tube)=106mm
Konica Minolta Maxxum 7D 0 mm 41 mm 36 mm
Nikon C8800 19.1 mm 67.9 mm N/A
Nikon D2H (+D2Hs/D2X/D2Xs?) 0 mm 79 mm 29.5 mm
Nikon D40 (+D40x?) 0 mm 36 mm 42 mm
Nikon D60 0 mm 36 mm 42 mm
Nikon D70 0 mm 52 mm 36 mm
Nikon D80 0 mm 42.8 mm 40 mm
Nikon D90 0 mm 42.8 mm 40 mm
Nikon D100 with MB-D100 0 mm 93 mm 33.5 mm
Nikon D200 0 mm 47 mm 40 mm
Nikon D200 with MB-D200 0 mm 93 mm ~33 mm
Nikon D300 0 mm 47.2 mm 42.4 mm
Nikon D300 with MB-D10 0 mm 90.2 mm 31.4 mm
Nikon D700 0 mm 50 mm 44.5 mm
Nikon D700 with MB-D10 0 mm 93 mm 44.5 mm
Nikon D800, D800E 0 mm 50 mm 44.5 mm
Nikon D800, D800E + MB-D12 0 mm 93 mm 44.5 mm
Nikon D3000 0 mm 35.6 mm 42.4 mm
Nikon D7000 0 mm 43 mm 40 mm
Nikon D7000 with MB-D11 0 mm 85.8 mm 25 mm
Nikon D3X 0 mm 76.9 mm 28.0 mm
Nikon D5000 0 mm 42.8 mm 40 mm
Nikon FT1 adapter 0 mm 43 mm 13 mm
Nikon PN11 tube 0 mm 40 mm 17 mm
Pentax *ist DS 0 mm 36 mm 43 mm
Pentax K10D/K20D 0 mm 41.6 mm 37.2 mm
Pentax K-7/K-5 0 mm 38.2 mm 41.6 mm
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 21.5 mm 27.7 mm 28.9 mm
Sony Alpha 7R 0 mm 38 mm 24 mm
Sony Alpha A100 0 mm 37 mm 35 mm
Sony SLT-A33/55 0 mm 36 mm 31 mm
Sony NEX-7 0 mm 32 mm 20.5 mm


Entrance Pupil Measurements

  • To calculate the Entrance pupil distance add the Tripod Mount Length (L1) from the camera and the Entrance Pupil Length (L2) from the lens. So for example for a Canon 300d and a 10-22mm at 10mm, the total Entrance pupil distance from the tripod mount is 40mm + 66mm = 106mm

For lenses of the same manufacturer as the camera, just take the first table, simple.

Several manufacturers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc) offer the same lens for a variety of camera mounts. Since different camera manufacturers have different lens mount dimensions, these "third party" lenses are split in a separate table (below).

  • For these Focal Length values the actual focus is set to infinity (\infty ) unless otherwise specified (Micro/macro lenses)
Lens Focal Length Entrance Pupil Length (L2)
 
Original equipment
(Lenses from same manufacturer as camera)
Enter the exact lens name, or if you are using a camera with a fixed lens the name of your camera as mentioned at DPreview.
 

 
Entrance Pupil Length
Facing the side of the lens, the distance from the base of the lens to the Entrance Pupil. A negative value means the entrance pupil is outside the lens, in the camera body.Such is the case with many telephoto lenses. The lens base is the
Canon EF 8-15mm 8-15mm 64mm
Canon EF-S 10-22mm 10mm 66mm
Canon EF 15mm 15mm 45mm at F11 focus at 1m
Canon EF 16-35 mm 16mm 79mm
Canon 17-40mm 17mm 71mm
Canon 17-40mm 28mm 69mm
Canon 17-40mm 40mm 72mm
Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 17mm 75.5mm
Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 20mm 71mm
Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 28mm 59.5mm
Canon 17-55mm f/2.8 35mm 52mm
Canon 18-55mm (which version?) 18mm 47mm
Canon 18-55mm 24mm 23mm
Canon 18-55mm 35mm 45mm
Canon 18-55mm 55mm 55mm
Canon 24mm f/2.8 24mm 28.5mm at F11 focus at 2m
Canon 24mm TSE f/3.5L II 24mm 86mm at F11, focus infinity at F11 mark
Canon 35mm f/2 35mm 12.5mm
Canon 35mm f/2 35mm 23mm at F11 and infinity at the red dot
Canon EF 50mm f/1.4 50mm 17.5mm
Canon 50mm f/1.8 II 50mm 23mm
Canon 50mm f/2.5 macro 50mm 21.5mm at F11, focus infinity at red dot mark
Canon 50mm f/2.5 macro 50mm 30mm at F11, focus at aprox 0.56m, 0.5m at left f16 mark.
Canon EF 85mm f/1.8 85mm 39mm
Canon EF 70-200 f/4.0 L USM 70mm 92mm
Canon EF 70-200 f/4.0 L USM 100mm 67mm
Canon EF 70-200 f/4.0 L USM 135mm 53mm
Canon EF 70-200 f/4.0 L USM 200mm  ??
Canon EF 70-200 f/2.8 L IS USM 200mm 26mm
Konica Minolta 24 f/2.8 24mm 21mm
Nikkor AF DX 10.5mm f2.8G ED Fisheye 10.5mm ~46mm recommended. Varies: 41.2 (0˚) to 57mm (100˚)[PT]
Nikkor AF DX 10.5mm f2.8G ED (Shaved, edge Null) 10.5mm ~47.5mm recommended on FX cameras. Varies: see above
Nikkor AF-S DX 12-24mm f4G ED 12mm 71.5mm
Nikkor AF 14mm f2.8D ED 14mm 48mm (Varies by angle)
Nikkor AF 16mm f2.8D Fisheye 16mm ~48mm recommended. Varies: 37.9mm(0˚) to 48mm(85˚)
Nikkor AF-S 17-35mm f2.8D ED 17mm 82.5mm
Nikkor AF-S 17-35mm f2.8D ED 35mm 78.5mm
Nikkor AF-S DX 18-55mm II 18mm 70mm
Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm 18mm 51mm
Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm 24mm 44mm
Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm 35mm 33.5mm
Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm 50mm 24.5mm
Nikkor AF-S DX 18-70mm 70mm -6.5mm
Nikkor AF 18mm f2.8D 18mm 36mm
Nikkor AF 20mm f2.8D 20mm 22mm
Nikkor AF 24mm f2.8D 24mm 25mm
Nikkor PC-E 24mm f3.5D ED tilt shift 24mm 85mm (no tilt)
Nikkor AF-S 24-120mm f4G ED VR 24mm 71mm (<25˚) Varies.
Nikkor AF-S 24-120mm f4G ED VR 120mm 4mm
Nikkor AF 28mm f2.8D 28mm 22mm[PT]
Nikkor PC 28mm f3.5 shift 28mm 37mm (no shift)
Nikkor AF-S 28-70mm f2.8D ED 28mm 97.5mm
Nikkor AF-S 28-70mm f2.8D ED 70mm 76mm
Nikkor AF 35mm f2.0D 35mm 19.3mm
Nikkor PC 35mm f2.8 shift 35mm 37mm (no shift)
Nikkor AF-S DX 35mm f1.8G 35mm 18mm
Nikkor AF-S DX Micro 40mm f2.8G 40mm 33mm
Nikkor MF 50mm f1.2 50mm 16mm
Nikkor AF 50mm f1.4D 50mm 6mm
Nikkor AF 50mm f1.8D 50mm 5mm (f4..f22), 19mm (f1.8..f2.8 - internal vignetting forward of aperture wide open)
Nikkor AF-S 50mm f1.8G 50mm 7mm ~
Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8D Micro 60mm 15mm (infinity)
Nikkor AF 60mm f2.8D Micro 60mm 49mm (1:1)
Nikkor AF-S 70-200mm f4G ED VR 70mm 100mm
Nikkor AF-S 70-200mm f4G ED VR 200mm -5mm
Nikkor AF 80-200mm f2.8D ED 80mm 81.2mm
Nikkor AF 80-200mm f2.8D ED 135mm 6mm
Nikkor AF 80-200mm f2.8D ED 200mm -90mm
Nikkor AF 85mm f1.8D 85mm 10mm
Nikkor PC 85mm f2.8D micro tilt shift 85mm 39mm (infinity, no tilt)
Nikkor PC 85mm f2.8D micro tilt shift 85mm 74mm (1:2)
Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8D Micro 105mm 32mm (infinity)
Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8D Micro 105mm 92mm (1:1)
Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8G VR Micro 105mm 30mm (~, at infinity)
Nikkor AF 105mm f2.8G VR Micro 105mm -50mm (~, at 1:1)
Nikkor AF 135mm f2D DC 135mm 42mm
Nikkor AF 180mm f2.8D ED 180mm -45mm
Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro 200mm 96mm (infinity)
Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro 200mm -5mm (1:2)
Nikkor AF 200mm f4D ED Micro 200mm -450mm (1:1)
Nikkor AF 300mm f4 ED 300mm -187mm, -209mm with TC14B
Nikkor MF 500mm f8 Reflex 500mm -335mm
Nikon C8800 at Wide inf. (is this at the widest setting ?) 8.9mm ?? 75mm center of tripod mtg screw to Ent Pupil
Panasonic Lumix DMC-LX3 5.1mm 28.5mm (but what constitutes the lens base?)
Opteka 0.22X UHD II FishEye 8mm (0.22X) 35.75mm
Sony 18-55mm E-mount 18mm 15.5mm
Sony 18-55mm E-mount 24mm 12.5mm
Sony 18-55mm E-mount 35mm -23.5mm
Sony FE 2.8/35mm E-mount 35mm 30 mm (approx - accurate measurement coming soon)
Carl Zeiss Jena Flektogon 20mm f/4 20mm 17.5mm
Raynox DCR-CF185PRO Conversion lens 80mm
Canon PowerShot A630 35mm (wide open) 31mm
Canon PowerShot A710 IS 35mm (wide open) 32mm
Canon G9 7.4mm (wide) 33.7mm from tripod screw
Canon G9 44.4mm (tight) -10mm from tripod screw
Pentax smc DA 10-17mm F3.5-4.5 Fisheye zoom 10mm 57.8mm
<Manufacturer / Lens> <Focal Length> <Entrance Pupil Length>

Several manufacturers (Sigma, Tamron, Tokina, etc) offer the same lens for a variety of camera mounts. This is convenient for example, if the value listed for your lens is for the Canon version and you have a Nikon, you just have to add 2.5mm (46.5mm - 44mm).

Unfortunately, many lenses in this table didn't specify the camera type. Please edit this table if you know the version of the lens actually measured.

Luckily the difference between Nikon and Canon is just 2.5mm, so even if the version of the lens isn't known, the value listed should at least be reasonably close.

Lens Focal Length Entrance Pupil
to Film Plane
Entrance Pupil
to Lens mount (L2)
Third-party lenses,
Lens manufacturer different than camera
or same lens available to fit several mounts
Entrance Pupil Length
Independent of lens mount
Entrance Pupil Length
Depends on type of camera
Enter the exact lens name f FP Unspecified mount Nikon F mount
(FP-46.5mm)
Canon EF Mount
(FP-44.0mm)
Peleng-N 8mm F3.5 8mm 44mm (N for Nikon?)
Samyang 8mm f3.5 CS Fish-eye (~60°) 8mm 50mm
Samyang 14mm f2.8 ED AS IF UMC 14mm 55mm
Samyang 35mm f1.4 AS UMC 35mm 58mm
Sigma 14mm f3.5 14mm 82.8mm to 87.8mm [JW]
Sigma 70-300 70mm 83mm
Sigma 70-300 85mm 70mm
Sigma 70-300 100mm 45mm
Sigma 70-300 135mm -30mm
Sigma 70-300 200mm -30mm
Sigma 10mm f/2.8 EX DC HSM Fisheye (60° stops) 10mm 50mm
Sigma 8mm f4.0 fisheye 8mm 88.8mm(10˚) to 103.5mm(90˚)[JW] ~48mm recommended
Sigma 8mm F3.5 EX 8mm 49.5mm 52mm[GR]
Sigma 35mm F1.4 A HSM 35mm 62mm
Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM 8mm 73mm
Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM 12mm 67mm
Sigma 8-16mm F4.5-5.6 DC HSM 16mm 66.5mm
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC 10mm 62mm
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC 14mm 64mm
Sigma 10-20mm F4-5.6 EX DC 20mm 68mm
Sigma 17-70mm F2.8-4.5 DC macro 17mm 58mm
Sigma 30mm F1.4 EX DC 30mm 26.5mm
Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM 50mm 60mm
Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM 70mm 30mm
Sigma APO 50-150 2.8 II EX DC HSM 100mm -10mm
Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 11mm 58.5mm
Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 14mm 59.5mm
Tamron 11-18mm F4.5-5.6 18mm 62.5mm
Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP 17mm 56.5mm
Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP 24mm 48mm
Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP 35mm 40.5mm
Tamron 17-50mm F2.8 XR DI II LD ASP 50mm 31.5mm
Tamron 28-75mm F2.8 XR DI 28-75mm 58.8mm
Tamron 90mm F2.8 Di2 Macro 90mm 34mm
Tokina 10-17mm f3.5 DX 10mm 58.2mm
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX 11mm 65.6mm
Tokina 11-16mm f2.8 DX 16mm 67.6mm
Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX 12mm 63mm[GR]
Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX 18mm 64mm ~
Tokina 12-24mm f4 DX 24mm 59mm
Tokina 28-70mm f2.8 ATX 28mm 115mm[JW]
Tokina 28-70mm f2.8 ATX 70mm 98.3mm[JW]
Tokina 28-80mm f2.8 ATX-PRO 28mm 128mm[JW]
Tokina 28-80mm f2.8 ATX-PRO 80mm 106mm[JW]
Zenitar 2,8/16 16mm 36mm


Number of pics for 360°

Focal Length
Lens Type
crop factor 1.5/1.6 Full Frame
Portrait Landscape Portrait Landscape
pics/360° rotate pics/360° rotate pics/360° rotate pics/360° rotate
8mm fisheye 4 90° 3 120° 3 120°
10.5mm fisheye 6 60° 3 120°
16mm fisheye 6 60° 4 90°
10mm rectilinear 6 60° 4 90°
14mm rectilinear 8 45° 6 60°
18mm rectilinear 10 36° 8 45°
24mm rectilinear 12 30° 8 45° 8 45° 6 60°
28mm rectilinear 15 24° 10 36° 12-8 30°-40° 8-6 40°-60°
35mm rectilinear 18 20° 12 30° 18-12 20°-30° 12-8 30°-40°
50mm rectilinear 24 15° 18 20° 18 20° 12 30°
70mm rectilinear 36 10° 24 15° 24 15° 15 24°


Focal Length (Micro-) Four Thirds (crop factor 2.0)
Portrait Landscape
pics/360° rotate pics/360° rotate
8mm fisheye 4 90° 3 120°
7mm rectilinear 5 72° 4 90°
9mm rectilinear 6 60° 5 72°
11mm rectilinear 7 51,5° 6 60°
12mm rectilinear 8 45° 6 60°
14mm rectilinear 9 40° 7 51,5°
17mm rectilinear 11 33° 8 45°
18mm rectilinear 11 33° 9 40°
25mm rectilinear 15 24° 12 30°
35mm rectilinear 21 17° 16 22,5°
40mm rectilinear 24 15° 18 20°


Related Resources



References

Data is taken from a variety of sources and personally verified by the editors wherever possible. Credit where credit is due!